The most important Rule of Persuasion is this:
It’s about the Other Guy, Stupid.
If you cannot get past yourself then you will likely be a miserable persuasion agent. But, it is not natural to put your focus on the Other Guy because, after all, you are the most important person in the world as far as you are concerned. How do you learn to get around yourself so you can follow this Rule? Consider this field study.
Kuhn and Crowell provide an interesting report of 11 and 12 year old kids getting training in Persuasion as part of their regular school work for its impact on persuasion skill. Kuhn and Crowell describe it as a philosophy class, but the point of it is argumentation with a strong emphasis on the Other Guy perspective, so by my lights it is also persuasion. Here’s the heart of the training.
The two intervention classes met as intact groups for a twice-weekly 50-min class, identified as a philosophy class. Each school year was divided into four quarters of about 13 class sessions each. A unique topic was introduced each quarter as the basis for that quarter’s work. A 1st-year topic, for example, was whether parents should be allowed to home-school a child, a 2nd-year topic was China’s one-child policy, and a 3rd-year topic concerned whether adult court, juvenile court, or teen (peer judge) court was the best means for adjudicating juvenile crimes. (All 3rd-year topics were three-sided.) Participants chose their sides on a topic. Topics had been pilot-tested to achieve approximately equal numbers of students who favored the different sides. The topic cycle began with small-group team work among students on the same side (pregame) and proceeded to electronic dialogues between pairs of students on opposing sides (game). Next, small-group preparation preceded a whole-class verbal debate that served as the capstone experience of the sequence (endgame). A debriefing session concluded with a final individual essay assignment.
As described here, there is no training in argumentation and debate theory (and there’s a huge literature on that one), just a series of activities in a guided Discovery Learning approach. Kids simply get a lot of practice in arguing on different topics and from different perspectives and through a variety of channels (computer mediated interactions, face-to-face class discussions, individual written essays).
Now, what happens to these kids? Kuhn and Crowell gathered several outcomes to assess the program. They also included two different kinds of control groups, one a classroom in the same school that did not get this program, and the other composed of classes of the same age, but from a different school who also did not do this program. All of these kids, intervention or control, got the same outcome measures and were then compared.
The key measure I’ll report here is from that final written essay. Each was scored for the arguments it contained and the category of argument it used: no argument, own-side argument, dual-perspective argument, or integrative-perspective argument. The point of the training was clearly aimed at those last two categories with the focus on the Other Guy. Here’s a graph of the outcome.

The body of the graph displays the mean number of dual-perspective arguments by time and condition. Y0 is the beginning of the study, and Y1, Y2, and Y3 are the ends of the 1st, 2nd, and 3rd years of the study, respectively. The graph clearly shows that Something Happened with the treatment kids compared to the controls, but appearances, especially in persuasion, can be deceiving. What’s the quantitative analysis?
There was a significant interaction between condition and time, F(3, 67) = 6.11, p < .001, ηp2 = .216. Simple-effects tests showed that the experimental group included more dual-perspective arguments than the comparison group at Y2, t(69) = 3.60, p = .001, and Y3, t(69) = 3.89, p < .001.
That “ηp2″ thingie is Greek for eta squared which is the type of effect size you use for ANOVAs if you’re properly trained and don’t slurp your soup from the spoon. Hey, 21.6% explained variance is a very healthy effect size, equivalent to an r = .46 which is about a Large Windowpane of 25/75. If I handed you the stacks of essays by class, asked you to read them, and then told you to assign each stack to either Treatment or Control, you’d have no trouble. Thus, It Works!
This program illustrates three broad persuasion points.
1. Persuasion is a skill and you get better with practice.
Again, I’m only going on the brief description in the report, but there was no strong and formal curriculum and instruction in this activity. Kids went through a set of guided activities and learned from each other and themselves. Just that guided practice is enough to develop a skill and you see that in the various outcomes Kuhn and Crowell collected. All of the various measures showed on big similarity: More training, more outcome. No matter how you measure the “persuasion skill,” the practice produces more of it. Now, quality is another matter, but you’ve got to develop the swing, the footwork, the timing and on and on, first, and this program accomplishes that goal.
2. Guided Discovery will get them where you want to go.
This is a classic application of the Role Playing persuasion strategy from Janis and King’s work in the 1950s. You get people in that debate format and move them through arguing only My Side then arguing the Other Guy’s Side. Janis and King used Role Playing to create change in the Other Guy, but as we see here, it can also be used to train persuasion skill in all Guys. In essence the various guided Discovery activities are a kind of Role Playing for each kid. When they try on the Role, they develop perspective. They start seeing and thinking like the Other Guy.
3. The Persuasion Box here is tricky.
This program ran with bright little kids from economically and educationally challenged backgrounds in a school run through Columbia University. Pretty rare air, these kids. They are smart and already hooked into a smart University. Wonder where some of them will end up 6 or 7 years compared to their compadres who were eligible to join this program, but stayed with their buddies on the block? These kids probably love the classroom and are thrilled silly every day in every way. How much impact does all this ability and motivation have on the success of the program? What kind of All Persuasion Is Local adjustments will you have to make in my farm town school in Holden, Missouri? Think about it. This practice works, but you must translate into Local terms.
Let’s get out of here . . .
Kuhn and Crowell provide an excellent report on a simple intervention that trains persuasion in young kids. The program clearly works. It is a simple educational intervention that aims the student at activities that will naturally produce the kind of interaction useful for skill building. You don’t need to over-teach this thing. I imagine that some instructors would be tempted to bring more than a little Sunday School morality and insight to the little ones when they come up with nonstandard ideas in a “philosophy” class – and you know I’m not talking religion here; a Skeptic would be as deadly as a Saint.
Hey, everybody: It’s about the Other Guy!